Saturday, August 18, 2012

Pascal's Wager Is For Weasels and Cowards

The wager

The philosophy uses the following logic (excerpts from Pensées, part III, §233):
  1. "God is, or He is not"
  2. A Game is being played... where heads or tails will turn up.
  3. According to reason, you can defend either of the propositions.
  4. You must wager. (It's not optional.)
  5. Let us weigh the gain and the loss in wagering that God is. Let us estimate these two chances. If you gain, you gain all; if you lose, you lose nothing.
  6. Wager, then, without hesitation that He is. (...) There is here an infinity of an infinitely happy life to gain, a chance of gain against a finite number of chances of loss, and what you stake is finite. And so our proposition is of infinite force, when there is the finite to stake in a game where there are equal risks of gain and of loss, and the infinite to gain.
Basically Pascal is saying to suck God's dick because if you don't and he happens to exist he will burn your ass in hell for all eternity.

If there is a God here's your choice.

1. Reject God and spend eternity in hell being tortured.

2. Kiss God's ass here on earth and accept Jesus as your Lord and savior  and go to heaven where you will continue to massage his insatiable ego.

If there is a just and merciful god he would not torture anyone for any amount of time even hypocrites like Christians. This world is full of suffering and our only hope is to destroy God. God causes suffering.

The amount of suffering on earth is immense and the only thing that will end it is science and reason and not the belief in this monster humans refer to as God. God is a liar and here's proof.

1)  And Jesus answered and said to them, "Truly I say to you, if you have faith and do not doubt, you will not only do what was done to the fig tree, but even if you say to this mountain, `Be taken up and cast into the sea,' it will happen.  "And all things you ask in prayer, believing, you will receive."  (Matthew 21:21-22 NAS)

    2)  Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you.  For everyone who asks, receives; and the one who seeks, finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened.  (Matthew 7:7-8 NAB)

    3)  Again I say to you, that if two of you agree on earth about anything that they may ask, it shall be done for them by My Father who is in heaven.  For where two or three have gathered together in My name, I am there in their midst.  (Matthew 18:19-20 NAS)

    4)  Amen, I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, 'Be lifted up and thrown into the sea,' and does not doubt in his heart but believes that what he says will happen, it shall be done for him.  Therefore I tell you, all that you ask for in prayer, believe that you will receive it and it shall be yours.  (Mark 11:24-25 NAB)

    5)  And I tell you, ask and you will receive; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you.  For everyone who asks, receives; and the one who seeks, finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened.  (Luke 11:9-13 NAB)

    6)  And whatever you ask in my name, I will do, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son.  If you ask anything of me in my name, I will do it.  (John 14:13-14 NAB)

    7)  If you remain in me and my words remain in you, ask for whatever you want and it will be done for you.  (John 15:7 NAB)

    8)  It was not you who chose me, but I who chose you and appointed you to go and bear fruit that will remain, so that whatever you ask the Father in my name he may give you.  (John 15:16 NAB)

    9)  On that day you will not question me about anything.  Amen, amen, I say to you, whatever you ask the Father in my name he will give you.  Until now you have not asked anything in my name; ask and you will receive, so that your joy may be complete.  (John 16:23-24 NAB)

    A lot of Christians ignore what Jesus actually says in the Bible.  They also tend to add things to the actual words to make them say something else.  If you honestly and truthfully read these quotes, without adding to them, it is very easy to see that Jesus is not saying that God will think about your prayers.  He says God will grant all your prayers.  Clearly, God doesn’t grant all prayers and this proves that Jesus was a habitual liar.


  1. God does not cause suffering my dear friend, suffering is an inevitable part of this life (and sometimes its caused by the greed of other humans, sadly). Jesus never said he would end our suffering during our earthly lives. He came to save us from being forgotten when we die.

    If you believe the bible, then you would believe that Jesus suffered terribly too, being whipped and murdered. I can barely imagine the humiliation of being nailed to a lump of wood, in full view of people mocking you, knowing you are dying, in full view of your distraught mother and friends. A fate which could have been avoided just by denying he was the son of God.

    My dear friend, these are not the actions of a cold and distant leader, but are the actions of a active leader, and one of incredible internal courage.

    Science, knowledge and human inspiration are good things, I share your view on that, and I am a scientist. But also for me, I want to fight, to hope, to struggle and try to be a better person, and to treat other people better. Reading the commandments of the bible is like looking in a mirror that shines light on all my faults. I need to read it everyday, just to stay on track. Its not easy, in this messed up world.

    1. Everything about God is evil. God has no redeeming value.

    2. God is love. I can only pray that you get to know him for yourself. Jesus came down from his throne and sacraficed himself for all of us. There is no greater love. God is so good. And continues to bless me despite all of my short comings. That, my friend, is an amazing and merciful God, who deserves nothing but praise. I've seen and experienced myself so many wonders and break throughs that I know that it was nobody but God. The enemy comes to steal, kill, and destroy. The enemy desires to sift you as wheat. But praise God that I've been saved and am covered in the blood of Jesus! I was lost but now I'm found, glory be to God! Satan flee from this place in the name of Jesus!! God bless you and keep you like only He can, is my prayer.

    3. God is evil and his deeds in the Bible speak for themselves.



God sucks and some of you admit and others are in denial about it. Say what ever you want. I am not an evil agent of God so I won't censor unless it is spam or pornographic. I'll even let Christers and Muslimes post their lies.